tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post2454524368984921483..comments2023-05-18T10:19:08.039-04:00Comments on Salisbury Soapbox: Albero Splashes DownSoapboxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-74116333947715292142007-11-07T08:07:00.000-05:002007-11-07T08:07:00.000-05:00Chicken Little knows so much about the Fire Depart...Chicken Little knows so much about the Fire Department, one has to wonder why that wasn't his chosen career path. He shows a picture of OC's mini-pumper on his site and states that unit was the sole pumping source on the scene of the Hoopers Fire. While it was a workhorse on that call, 800 GPM isn't quite the capacity needed to flow the large volumes of water that it took to extinguish that blaze.<BR/><BR/>Chicken Little also rants about how "HE WAS THERE". I took him to task about who in fact was pumping that piece of equipment that evening and, much like his whining about the Daily Times taking his comments down, he failed to put mine up. I'm assuming because the mighty midget couldn't answer my question, when in fact it was former Mayor of OC, the Honorable Roland "Fish" Powell.<BR/><BR/>You would think that someone that who's in the know so much could have answered that since HE WAS THERE.Richard Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11324118115996100480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-61148257106351740022007-11-06T20:34:00.000-05:002007-11-06T20:34:00.000-05:00I was not at Hoopers but I am sure of this much. ...I was not at Hoopers but I am sure of this much. That fire had a huge head start before it was discovered and it certainly was obvious that it burned from the inside out. It would be virtually impoosible for a fire of such magnitude to stay hidden for so long otherwise.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-55494222860819141132007-11-06T17:26:00.000-05:002007-11-06T17:26:00.000-05:00ROTFLMAO....it's even better on his site Soapbox, ...ROTFLMAO....it's even better on his site Soapbox, now Mr. Albero is a fire investigator and knows more about the starting of the HOOPERS fire than actual members of Ocean City Volunteer Fire Department that were IN FACT actually there and would probbaly be a bit closer to the state fire marshals or the fire marshals in Ocean City and Worcester County to know the real factual actual cause!!!!Inside Looking Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206064103098287709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-76523800123659254842007-11-06T08:22:00.000-05:002007-11-06T08:22:00.000-05:00Thank you Inside Looking Out.Truth be told the "Lo...Thank you Inside Looking Out.<BR/>Truth be told the "Looking" for new apparatus is an ongoing process. The fire service is constantly evolving and even if new equipment is not on the current agenda, ideas and concepts are always on the minds of those planning for years in advance. In this service equipment must be "spec"ed to the local need. It's not like going to the dealership and driving one off the lot.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-19371371146570742912007-11-05T20:46:00.000-05:002007-11-05T20:46:00.000-05:00OK...I guess i may as well throw in my 2 cents to ...OK...I guess i may as well throw in my 2 cents to Mr. Albero's incredible MIS-claims. After reading the comments of his last night i made a few inquiring phone calls to fire service people that i trust beyond compare. Their words were that Salisbury has been looking...again..LOOKING at different designs and manufacturers of fireboats for a couple years if not longer.<BR/><BR/> They've talked to other departments that have fireboats that have not only commercial developement, but also residential developement along areas of water in their respective jurisdictions. THIS WHOLE THING about a "practical working fireboat"(term was given to me) is NOTHING NEW except to Mr. Albero.<BR/><BR/> Again, i was told by people not even connected with Salisbury Fire Department, and even they've known about the department looking at designs of actual working fireboats for a few years now. I was told that there has been no real reason to actually write specifications until they have ACCURATE information as to what will or will not work for this area for the uses the department has in mind.<BR/><BR/> This again, is another one of Mr. Albero's "Chicken Little" running around screaming "the sky is falling...the sky is falling" "the mayor is screwing us....the mayor is screwing us" rants. <BR/><BR/> You're better at taking pictures of street lights being on during the day or maybe the lights being out at night than you are in reporting ACTUAL ACCURATE INFORMATION about the local fire services. Might try sticking to what you're good at!!!Inside Looking Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206064103098287709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-4742462701302766842007-11-05T14:03:00.000-05:002007-11-05T14:03:00.000-05:00CGS Curtis Bay doesn't have one -- firefighting re...CGS Curtis Bay doesn't have one -- firefighting responsibilities in the port of Baltimore are the jurisdiction of the City FD.<BR/><BR/>This was seen during the explosion at the Domino's plant last week-- where the fireboat was actually employed not to directly put water on the fire, but for dust suppression.<BR/><BR/>You know-- one point that Soap touched on in his original post, but didn't elaborate on: maritime firefighting is VASTLY different from land-based firefighting, and requires and incredible amount of water.<BR/><BR/>Most shipboard fires occur or quickly spread below decks FAST. Since heat rises, firefighters often have to descend into an incredible inferno. Fireboats equipped with effective pumps can put a lot of water on those fires fast, giving firefighters a chance to safely enter burning vessels.<BR/><BR/>I've always been taught that when fighting a fire, you put the suppressant -- water, chem, whatever -- on the base of the flame (where the actually exothermic chemical reaction is occurring), not to the top of the flame.<BR/><BR/>In a maritime fire, that means flooding the fire location in many instances, because of the heat and the inability of firefighters to get down into the vessel.<BR/><BR/>That means you need a boat with serious pumps, not a pleasure boat jury-rigged with a Home Depot special.Gunpowder Chroniclerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354689451478810655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-31424314181520696392007-11-05T13:55:00.000-05:002007-11-05T13:55:00.000-05:00chuck norrisunderstood. no problem.chuck norris<BR/><BR/>understood. no problem.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-53772291359383757542007-11-05T13:18:00.000-05:002007-11-05T13:18:00.000-05:00soap, I ment Albero, not you.soap, I ment Albero, not you.Chuck Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13446169993543959775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-73131826593395568892007-11-05T11:20:00.000-05:002007-11-05T11:20:00.000-05:00I may be mistaken but I don’t believe there is a C...I may be mistaken but I don’t believe there is a CG “Fireboat” per say in the local area. Crews on the cutters are trained in damage control and there is a small pump available for that. However I do not believe there are large volume pumps aboard.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-60583361907903287662007-11-05T10:27:00.000-05:002007-11-05T10:27:00.000-05:00The closest Coast Guard station that could be of a...The closest Coast Guard station that could be of any creditable assistance is Crisfield. It would take at least 2 hours for them to respond on the scene under good weather conditions. <BR/>Rain, Wind, Snow, Fog, ICE, Salisbury would probably be on their own for the duration. Just how much damage can be done by a major fire in 2 hours? My guess is TOO MUCH.<BR/>I'm not sure they even have a fire rescue boat at that station???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-39937243202589043552007-11-05T10:11:00.000-05:002007-11-05T10:11:00.000-05:00Correct GunpowderThe traffic and channels of the C...Correct Gunpowder<BR/><BR/>The traffic and channels of the Chesapeake Bay are of a far greater concern to the Coast Guard than the Port of Salisbury. This is not say they will not respond if needed here, but there is not enough activity to support a permanent detail. Therefore it falls to the local jurisdiction to provide protection and service.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for the valid point.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-52641992919728681232007-11-05T09:28:00.000-05:002007-11-05T09:28:00.000-05:00Just think Joe,You can stand on the west bank of t...Just think Joe,<BR/>You can stand on the west bank of the river and take pictures of all the drunk racist firefighters cruising down the river running over innocent boaters.<BR/>WOW, what a scoop "Scoops" Albero would have for his "News" site.<BR/><BR/>Personally I can not understand WHY we don't already have a large fire rescue vessel. We have numerous fuel depots, tankers and other buildings along the shore. Additionally we need to re-design the bridge next to Market Street Inn so the fire boat can get up the river towards the Hospital, Library, downtown and the Daily Times to support fire rescue efforts should, they ever be needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-57942175994371263122007-11-05T09:24:00.000-05:002007-11-05T09:24:00.000-05:00Soap,The only thing I would add to your post is th...Soap,<BR/><BR/>The only thing I would add to your post is that while the Coast Guard does have firefighting boats and capabilities, those capabilities are -- since 9/11 -- concentrated around MAJOR targets like Norfolk, New York, etc.<BR/><BR/>Expecting the Coast Guard to establish a station in Salisbury for the purpose of firefighting would be the absolute worst application of federalism on the history of the planet.Gunpowder Chroniclerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354689451478810655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-41791638769736442862007-11-05T07:21:00.000-05:002007-11-05T07:21:00.000-05:00I say again--Itemize the lies.one by oneI say again--Itemize the lies.<BR/><BR/>one by oneSoapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-73554610267350291152007-11-05T06:09:00.000-05:002007-11-05T06:09:00.000-05:00Albero one ups himself again! Just when you think ...Albero one ups himself again! Just when you think he couldn't sink any lower, he comes off with this stuff. Can anyone say "PATHOLOGICAL"???Richard Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11324118115996100480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-21641619095658582322007-11-04T22:54:00.000-05:002007-11-04T22:54:00.000-05:00"The truth was too much for you to handle because ..."The truth was too much for you to handle because it made your Post look like a pack of lies."<BR/><BR/>Pot, kettle called, and he wants the black back.Gunpowder Chroniclerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354689451478810655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-77251310105761436152007-11-04T22:29:00.000-05:002007-11-04T22:29:00.000-05:00I did not call you or anyone else a name. You coul...I did not call you or anyone else a name. You couldn't handle the truth and you lied again stating it was only a paragraph long. Try more like 3 or 4.joe alberohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327306249284974393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-63371906656068852722007-11-04T22:01:00.000-05:002007-11-04T22:01:00.000-05:00I did not say you cursed Albero. I indicated the ...I did not say you cursed Albero. I indicated the last word was offensive. In case you don't recall this is part of my original post when I started this BLOG and it is clearly stated in the left hand column of the main page:<BR/><BR/>".....Say anything you like about anything or anyone but keep the language clean and refrain from name calling. I reserve the right to edit any comments made here."<BR/><BR/>The word you used was derogatory and offensive. I disallowed it.<BR/>Re-submit without the name calling and I will allow it to stand.<BR/><BR/>Itemize the lies.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-55049554756540152562007-11-04T21:47:00.001-05:002007-11-04T21:47:00.001-05:00chuck norrisI don't have it. It was deleted. The c...chuck norris<BR/><BR/>I don't have it. It was deleted. The comment was a paragraph long and Albero used a derogatory word at the end so I deleted it. <BR/><BR/>Rather than try to recall from memory and risk being called a liar or conscrewing the original message, I will allow Albero to re-submit. However it is not up to me to retain his drivel. If he or anyone else can tell me how to recover the deleted comment I will do as stated and e-mail it to him for revision.<BR/><BR/> He can't rememeber what he said and it's my fault that I don't retain his thoughts. <BR/><BR/>Go figure.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-52944347089758962622007-11-04T21:47:00.000-05:002007-11-04T21:47:00.000-05:00Like I said, I never cursed, leaving NO reason for...Like I said, I never cursed, leaving NO reason for you to delete it. The truth was too much for you to handle because it made your Post look like a pack of lies.joe alberohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327306249284974393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-82165926254186785102007-11-04T21:33:00.000-05:002007-11-04T21:33:00.000-05:00Joseph, why don't you just retype this marvelous c...Joseph, why don't you just retype this marvelous comment that is full of truth?Chuck Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13446169993543959775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-30294816751572807452007-11-04T21:29:00.000-05:002007-11-04T21:29:00.000-05:00I permanently deleted the comment with a prompt fr...I permanently deleted the comment with a prompt from Blogger Albero.<BR/>Tell me how to retrieve it on Blogger and I will do so and I will e-mail it to you for correction as you request.<BR/><BR/><BR/>It’s certainly not my duty to save your unacceptable comments.<BR/><BR/>I am not lying about anything.Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-4080641283892859052007-11-04T21:04:00.000-05:002007-11-04T21:04:00.000-05:00You're lying Joe. You're afraid my comment would c...You're lying Joe. You're afraid my comment would clearly show you're lying in this Post and that's what you're afraid of. I never cursed in my comment. Joe is simply afraid you people would quickly realize just how huge a lie this post is. Look in your trash for the comment I put up Joe. Prove to everyone I'm a liar, including that last word that was allegedly unacceptable.joe alberohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327306249284974393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-69949575195695090942007-11-04T19:47:00.000-05:002007-11-04T19:47:00.000-05:00I didn't save eitherI didn't save eitherSoapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719733012433055243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404083075239659226.post-38500491571408548942007-11-04T19:13:00.000-05:002007-11-04T19:13:00.000-05:00I didn't save it. Please e-mail it to alberobutzo@...I didn't save it. Please e-mail it to alberobutzo@wmconnect.com and I'll remove the last word. Thanking You In Advance, Joejoe alberohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327306249284974393noreply@blogger.com